Talk:Parson Gotti

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Who controls Parson?

I've seen some debate over who actually Parson most obey, Wanda or Stanley. I haven't seen this comic mentioned before but in the last panel of it looks like Wanda is issuing a command that P. should use Tool, not Lord. What do you think of that?

-Nope. Wanda's comment "you'll only use that word again," is a response to Parson's question, not a command. She means, "If I tell you how bad it is, you'll only swear ("use that word," boop) again."


I removed a sentence that someone added suggesting that Parson was disbanded without being "removed from the world". Sorry, man, but we do not know the effect of Disbanding. We do know that there is a Barbarian state. Disbanding may be a process whereby a unit becomes a barbarian. But that it disappears? Disbanding in our world merely means leaving the group you're in and wandering off home, not death. We do know that units are required to run farms, so disbanding to leave the military can mean the unit stops being military and becomes rural. We just do not know what the term means, and so using the term must be open enough to cover all possible definitions.
--Kreistor 14:01, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

We don't know for sure, but it doesn't seem to me that Sizemore would be all that alarmed about being disbanded (if they crossed Stanley's path after he told them to get out of his sight) if it just meant becoming a barbarian. SteveMB 15:05, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
A barbarian without money to provide upkeep? Being a barbarian is not easy. Parson, as a barbarian, may die from starvation fairly quickly. In teh MK, they've got friends that may help them out, but that's not for Parson, as we saw. I'm not saying that being a barbarian is easy: it's hard, and a lot harder if you lack any units to support you, and have no reputation you can use to gain mercenary employment. Further, he'd be an unallied unit, in the midst of thousands of unled troops. Auto-attack rules come into effect -- he will die if disbanded inside GK, but not from the effect of disbanding, but from basic sword thrusts. --Kreistor 16:19, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
I don't think either Sizemore or Parson would have any trouble quickly striking an alliance or turning to a side if they went barbarian. Also, as noted above, Sizemore could probably just go to the MK (if he could make it to a portal... not sure how that would go). Sizemore definitely seemed in fear for their lives, and Parson surmizes in a Klog that Stanley has the ability to essentially kill him with a thought. Together, this seems to me enough evidence to guess that Disbanding is equivalent to death (or at least appears that way to the denizens of Erfworld), though we don't know the exact mechanics of how it works. Commander I. Heartly Noah June 10 2009, 17:51 (UTC)

Why, exactly...

Why exactly is there a book 1 plot summary on Parson's character page? Seems really out of place. --Jerichothebard 21:58, 2 June 2009 (UTC)


Removed "Garrison" from Parson's special abilities. Though he has not left the city yet, there is no reason to assume now that he can't. I would be much surprised if any Warlord could be a Garrison unit. Commander I. Heartly Noah June 22, 2009, 17:59 (UTC)

He has difficulty moving around one hex, it's unlikely he can get to another. Plus, given all of his similarities to Bogroll, it seems likely that the unit type he is, is more likely not to go off around the world when he's controlling everything from the capitol. I think he should be considered garrison until proven in the story otherwise. - 19:15, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
But he hasn't attempted to leave the City yet. There's no reason to believe he's incapable of it until we see some evidence. Oh wait, yeah, he did - when he went through the portal to the Magic Kingdom. Not a long hike, but definitely out of the hex. His similarities to Bogroll? You mean that they're both tall and fat? How about that other twoll who was out in the field, and therefore clearly not a Garrison unit? Isn't he more similar than Parson? And to Parson, come to think of it, since they both have two eyes. Plus, getting around so laboriously is supposed to be evidence of him not fitting the rules, not of him being constrained by them. Maybe, instead of having a Move value, he can move as far as he's physically able. Oh yeah - Bogroll is a Garrison unit and doesn't get tired, so why is Parson's poor fitness indication that he's a Garrison unit? And the idea that Parson would be best served by staying in the city is no evidence that he can't leave. And all of that aside, we should default to assuming a special circumstance (like having a particular Natural Ability) is not the case until shown otherwise, not the other way around. Commander I. Heartly Noah June 23, 2009, 01:43 (UTC)

We are allowed to speculate, yes? I hereby speculate that he is a garrison unit, and he may also potentially be a noble. When asked by Stanley on page 24, he is officially named Lord Hamster. Ansom later claims that this title means nothing, but Ansom is not infallible. Given Parson's quick adapting skills and his ability to attempt to metagame (when he meets Misty, he's trying to) it could be said that he's doing things better, and potentially levelling (without visible stats, nobody can tell) both are things Ansom has said nobles do better. - NemFX 06:24, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

There's a difference between Speculation and Pet Theories. If you want to pull somethign out of thin air, try it on the Forum first, and then if there's some positive feedback, consider putting it here. But if it's not got any support at all, there are a lot more people that disagree that can remove it than put it back. Fantasize as much as you want, just not whee people are supposed to come to answer their questions. --Kreistor 06:40, 27 June 2009 (UTC)