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=Proposed Canon=
 
=Proposed Canon=
  
Fate is one of the three axes of [[magic]] (along with [[Erf]] and [[Numbers]]) used to break a major class of magic into three different disciplines. {{Erf|1|038a}} Some [[Erfworld]]ers also use the term "Fate" to refer to the predetermined destiny of an individual or group, as if it was a magical [[Stats|Stat]].  
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Fate is one of the three axes of [[magic]] (along with [[Erf]] and [[Numbers]]) used to break a major class of magic into three different disciplines. {{Erf|1|038a}} Some [[Erfworld]]ers treat the term "Fate" as if it was a magical [[Stats|Stat]]. Most Erfworlders believe Fate refers to a predetermined and inescapable end. Casters belonging to the Fate axis however, do not consider Erfworld presolved. Rather than Fate ''being'' the future, it helps decide it.
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Predictamancers and Carnymancers believe that Fate is a cosmic intelligence that manipulates outcomes for units it "cares" about. According to [[Roger Victor Clarence]], Predictamancers worship it while Carnymancers fear it{{ref|[[Hvs.tCF 255]]}}.
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Thinkamancers believe Fate is a series of [[dictum]]s created by the collective [[intuition]] of Erfworlders and self-fulfilling spells from Predictamancers. These dictums act as a sort of mystical construct like a [[golem]], that enforce their directives by manipulating [[Luckamancy]].
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Units with a fate are notoriously difficult to [[croak]], as Fate manipulates Luckamancy to shield them until they can accomplish its intentions. According to [[Wanda]] and [[Olive Branch]], croaking them is in fact possible with enough effort, but this results in Fate creating an even worse replacement to fulfill the fate of the croaked unit.
  
 
{{MagicAxis|Fate}}
 
{{MagicAxis|Fate}}
 
==Miscellaneous==
 
==Miscellaneous==
 
*Attunement to [[Arkentool]]s is governed by Fate [[magic]].{{erf|1|022}}
 
*Attunement to [[Arkentool]]s is governed by Fate [[magic]].{{erf|1|022}}
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==Known Units with Fates==
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*[[Sylvia Lazarus]] (Stated by Jojo)
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*[[Parson Gotti]] (Shown in {{erf|3|128}}
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*[[Wanda Firebaugh]] (Multiple Predictions)
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*[[Jillian Zamussels]] (Multiple Predictions)
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*[[Judy Gale]] (Stated by Jack)
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*[[Maggie]] (Shown in {{erf|3|128}}
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*[[Lilith]] (inferred from information on {{erf|3|128}}, which shows an archon with short brown hair in a fate bubble and {{erf|3|125}}, which shows Lilith as the only brown hairs Archon currently Decrypted)
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*[[Charlie]] (implied by being Attuned)
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*[[Stanley]] (implied by being Attuned)
  
 
=Speculation=
 
=Speculation=
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It is strongly suspected that Fate provides the strings by which the [[Titan]]s enact their great plan, subtly manipulating events in an effort to reach a desired state. In other words, Fate is used as a plot device by the writer Rob Balder to make the plot of the Erfworld stories more dramatic and interesting.
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It would seem that Fate operates under a series of debts, or what might be described as karma. Every action in Erfworld has a reaction.<sup>[[LIAB Text 40]]</sup> Some of these reactions manifest as a debt along the Fate axis.<sup>[[IPTSF Text 1]]</sup> In order to pay the debt, some pattern in Fate must be permitted to manifest as a completed [[Prophecy]].<sup>[[IPTSF Text 48]]</sup> While the prophecies stated by a Predictamancer are not absolute and ''can'' be defied, this likely accumulates more and more debt, making the prophecy more and more powerful and more desperate to fulfill itself.
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Fate views or changes the purpose or destiny of whatever it deals with.  For items, that is what it does.  Turnamancy can take an existing object and make it work itself (adding Motion), but to take something and give it a purpose beyond what it has innately takes Dollamancy.  When one form of regular Stuff is changed into another by a Changeamancer, it’s Matter and Fate.  Healomancers directly modify the Fate of whatever they cast on.  Fate Magic is more subtle than Erf magic, but less so than Numbers.  Erf Magic has an effect that is immediate.  Fate Magic tends to be more long-lasting.  Changing the nature, purpose or direction of an object is a profound thing and that’s what Fate does.
 
Fate views or changes the purpose or destiny of whatever it deals with.  For items, that is what it does.  Turnamancy can take an existing object and make it work itself (adding Motion), but to take something and give it a purpose beyond what it has innately takes Dollamancy.  When one form of regular Stuff is changed into another by a Changeamancer, it’s Matter and Fate.  Healomancers directly modify the Fate of whatever they cast on.  Fate Magic is more subtle than Erf magic, but less so than Numbers.  Erf Magic has an effect that is immediate.  Fate Magic tends to be more long-lasting.  Changing the nature, purpose or direction of an object is a profound thing and that’s what Fate does.
  
The Axis of Fate seems to focus on an active target's status.  For instance, [[Croakamancy]] can return a character from [[croaked]] to [[uncroaked]].  [[Dollamancy]] (and by proxy [[fabrication]]) specializes in the creation or re-configuration of a base material into non-living items like [[raiment]], [[golems]] and small, non-magical items.  Presumably, [[Healomancy]] restores hit points and removes other status effects.  And [[Thinkamancy]] has been shown to alter loyalty scores.  [[Predictamancy]] can determine a target's future state - alive, dead, carrying around an [[Arkentool]].
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The Axis of Fate seems to focus on an active target's status.  For instance, [[Croakamancy]] can return a character from [[croaked]] to [[uncroaked]].  [[Dollamancy]] (and by proxy [[fabrication]]) specializes in the creation or re-configuration of a base material into non-living items like [[raiment]], [[golems]] and small, non-magical items.  Presumably, [[Healomancy]] restores hit points and removes other status effects.  [[Thinkamancy]] is the guiding magic behind a unit's decisions and has been shown to alter loyalty scores.  [[Predictamancy]] can look into a target's future state - alive, dead, carrying around an [[Arkentool]]. And [[Carnymancy]] can manipulate the very rules by which the world operates.
  
=Natural Fate=
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Signamancy is the Fate magic that forms the bridge between the Fate axis and the [[Erf]] axis. While Fate works as Erfworld's control and logic mechanism, Signamancy is used to shape the physical erf into a symbolic, visual representation of what happens behind the scenes.
[[Loyalty]] may be considered a form of natural Fate magic, in that being loyal to a side is aligning ones fate with it. This is probably, as Loyalty and Duty are described as natural Thinkamancy.
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==Balance==
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It has been stated that a price must be paid for every transaction, including very powerful fates. Wanda has been described as very special within the Fate axis, and [[Delphie Temple]] said that she had had to pay out a debt to Fate by working for [[Haffaton]]. It is likely that there is some sort of "karma" score to balance out the good and bad events fated to happen to a unit.
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==Natural Fate==
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[[Loyalty]] may be considered a form of natural Fate magic, in that being loyal to a side is aligning ones fate with it. This is probable, as Loyalty and Duty are described as natural Thinkamancy.
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=Real World References=
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fate Fate] is of course a reference to the idea that there is an agency that predetermines a series of inevitable events.
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Fate appears to be a primal form of intelligence possessed by the world itself, which might be a reference to [[wikipedia:Panpsychism|Panpsychism]], [[wikipedia:Genius_loci|Genius Loci]], or the [[wikipedia:Anima_mundi|Anima Mundi]].
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The fact that Fate maintains equilibrium and will make things harder when countered may be a reference to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tao Tao].
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Latest revision as of 12:55, 11 June 2017

Proposed Canon

Fate is one of the three axes of magic (along with Erf and Numbers) used to break a major class of magic into three different disciplines. Erf-b1-p038aSame-site.PNG Some Erfworlders treat the term "Fate" as if it was a magical Stat. Most Erfworlders believe Fate refers to a predetermined and inescapable end. Casters belonging to the Fate axis however, do not consider Erfworld presolved. Rather than Fate being the future, it helps decide it.

Predictamancers and Carnymancers believe that Fate is a cosmic intelligence that manipulates outcomes for units it "cares" about. According to Roger Victor Clarence, Predictamancers worship it while Carnymancers fear itHvs.tCF 255.

Thinkamancers believe Fate is a series of dictums created by the collective intuition of Erfworlders and self-fulfilling spells from Predictamancers. These dictums act as a sort of mystical construct like a golem, that enforce their directives by manipulating Luckamancy.

Units with a fate are notoriously difficult to croak, as Fate manipulates Luckamancy to shield them until they can accomplish its intentions. According to Wanda and Olive Branch, croaking them is in fact possible with enough effort, but this results in Fate creating an even worse replacement to fulfill the fate of the croaked unit.

Class\Axis Fate
Hocus Pocus Predictamancy
Spookism Dollamancy
Stuffamancy Changemancy
Eyemancy Thinkamancy
Hippiemancy Signamancy
Naughtymancy Croakamancy
Stagemancy Carnymancy
Clevermancy Healomancy

Miscellaneous

Known Units with Fates

Speculation

It is strongly suspected that Fate provides the strings by which the Titans enact their great plan, subtly manipulating events in an effort to reach a desired state. In other words, Fate is used as a plot device by the writer Rob Balder to make the plot of the Erfworld stories more dramatic and interesting.

It would seem that Fate operates under a series of debts, or what might be described as karma. Every action in Erfworld has a reaction.LIAB Text 40 Some of these reactions manifest as a debt along the Fate axis.IPTSF Text 1 In order to pay the debt, some pattern in Fate must be permitted to manifest as a completed Prophecy.IPTSF Text 48 While the prophecies stated by a Predictamancer are not absolute and can be defied, this likely accumulates more and more debt, making the prophecy more and more powerful and more desperate to fulfill itself.

Fate views or changes the purpose or destiny of whatever it deals with. For items, that is what it does. Turnamancy can take an existing object and make it work itself (adding Motion), but to take something and give it a purpose beyond what it has innately takes Dollamancy. When one form of regular Stuff is changed into another by a Changeamancer, it’s Matter and Fate. Healomancers directly modify the Fate of whatever they cast on. Fate Magic is more subtle than Erf magic, but less so than Numbers. Erf Magic has an effect that is immediate. Fate Magic tends to be more long-lasting. Changing the nature, purpose or direction of an object is a profound thing and that’s what Fate does.

The Axis of Fate seems to focus on an active target's status. For instance, Croakamancy can return a character from croaked to uncroaked. Dollamancy (and by proxy fabrication) specializes in the creation or re-configuration of a base material into non-living items like raiment, golems and small, non-magical items. Presumably, Healomancy restores hit points and removes other status effects. Thinkamancy is the guiding magic behind a unit's decisions and has been shown to alter loyalty scores. Predictamancy can look into a target's future state - alive, dead, carrying around an Arkentool. And Carnymancy can manipulate the very rules by which the world operates.

Signamancy is the Fate magic that forms the bridge between the Fate axis and the Erf axis. While Fate works as Erfworld's control and logic mechanism, Signamancy is used to shape the physical erf into a symbolic, visual representation of what happens behind the scenes.

Balance

It has been stated that a price must be paid for every transaction, including very powerful fates. Wanda has been described as very special within the Fate axis, and Delphie Temple said that she had had to pay out a debt to Fate by working for Haffaton. It is likely that there is some sort of "karma" score to balance out the good and bad events fated to happen to a unit.

Natural Fate

Loyalty may be considered a form of natural Fate magic, in that being loyal to a side is aligning ones fate with it. This is probable, as Loyalty and Duty are described as natural Thinkamancy.

Real World References

Fate is of course a reference to the idea that there is an agency that predetermines a series of inevitable events.

Fate appears to be a primal form of intelligence possessed by the world itself, which might be a reference to Panpsychism, Genius Loci, or the Anima Mundi.

The fact that Fate maintains equilibrium and will make things harder when countered may be a reference to the Tao.