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That speculation seems completely random. Is there any basis or grounding? --Raphfrk 20:38, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Not really. I wrote that when I first came to the Wiki, when I didn't realize what srs bizniz Speculation was. It almost qualifies as Fanon, except it affects the established history. I mean, it could be completely wrong, or completely right, or Balder might not even have bothered to think about it. So it will likely never be Proposed Canon, and unless Balder comes in and likes it, it will never be Canon, but is a blank page better? I don't really care, just wondering. Commander I. Heartly Noah 18:19 June 10, 2009, (UTC)

Is there any reason to state that we know that the Milquetoast Clan was a capital side per se? --DevilDan

Only that a Clan would be less likely to be somebody's natural allies than a side. and that it would be harder to eliminate a tribe within a side (or two sides) than just destroy a side. Also, going on the basis of the Elf brands matching their names, "Milquetoast Clan" gives the impression of standard, boring, not noteworthy, regular. IE just another side of Men. Commander I. Heartly Noah June 23
Is any other capital side ever given any attribution except the kingdom's name or city name? The "clan" tag makes me think of Croatan and Plaid, even if "clan" is used instead of "tribe."--DevilDan

I thought these were elves. "He attacked us, he hit the elves, wiped out the milquetoast clan" refers to a single action, I think, not three. Milquetoast fits in nicely with the sillier elf brand names, that they're called a "clan". Just as the superflous elves' only role is to not be used, and the tardy elves' role is to not show up, the milquetoast elves were only ever in the story to be wiped out - "toast". (and milquetoast does "mean weak, ineffectual or bland" according to wikipedia) 10:23, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

There, I added it to the page. Seems as good of speculation as any! Miment 16:59, 22 January 2011 (UTC)