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I moved a massive amount into Prop Spec. We now know for certain that casting for this unit is a Natural Ability to cast specific spells, not the Natural Ability "Caster". This denies them a lot, especially specialization.

At least one person thinks that a decypted unit wouldn't necessarily have access to all their spells, but we know that Ansom is not debilitated by his decryption, even if he is missing some details. Decryption does not eliminate ability, just memory, and so for the moment, Archons are not denied anything they previously could do. We have all 28 participating in the fireworks display: if any were denied random ability, not all could participate.

Archons now work for GK. That's clear. They do not gain power only from the Arkendish, and it's clear that none of their power comes from the Arkendish. They are a special unit, in the same way as a dwagon or decrypted. Normal unit limitations apply. Their specialness is the commonality: casters are rare. GK had 5 at comic start. Charlie had at least 31 (30 blue sparklies over GK in one panel plus dead Jaclyn). Anyway, that and more didn't make it -- too speculativ. (I really am holding back. Everything in Prop Spec can be demonstrated.)

As non-casters, Archons probably gain specific spells as they level, instead of learning by choice like Wanda or Sizemore. This explains the gross similarities between all of them (whereas Wanda and Sizemore are almost direct opposites of each other), and the lack of individualization besides skin tone and hair colour. And it explains why none are seen in MK.

--Kreistor 17:43, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Though I suspect that archon magical abilities are not tied to the arkendish, tt's not immediately clear that all their powers were not augmented by the arkendish. We haven't seen them detect magics or even use thinkagrams. -- Devildan

5 archons in flash mob - Ginger, Posh, Scary, Sporty and Baby? their appearances seem to match


What is "TSR" (from the very last section of the article)? The context is the changing of Angels to Archons, "under the marketing decision of TSR."

Jack Vermicelli 20:10, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

TSR was the company that published Dungeons & Dragons materials before it was bought out by Wizards of the Coast. I think that the idea was that at the time the game was being criticized for its hell/heaven creatures, and changing the names was a way of skirting the issue a little.

No pages for any known Archons?

What is the rationale for not having individual pages for the known Archons but rather lumping them all into the Known Archons section of the Archon page? Literally every single caster listed in the Known Casters section of the Caster page has their own article, even the ones that have barely been mentioned in the comic, such as Uhura and Spenser. Certainly the Archons who have had significant characterization in the actual comic deserve their own pages as much as or more than any of those casters who have only been mentioned in passing and have received no characterization (or even illustration). -- 02:45, 10 September 2013 (EDT)

  • Casters have more personality than any other unit type. Conversely, Archons don't have much more personality than a level 1 stabber, even the better known ones, like Jaclyn. As such, no one has thus far felt enough motivation to write up their articles. If you wish to add individual archon pages, you are more than welcome to.-- 11:57, 10 September 2013 (EDT)

I don't know what you are talking about. There are pages for individual Archons: Jaclyn is one example. Bcent1234 14:56, 10 September 2013 (EDT)

Yeah noone seems to be saying you cannot create individual pages for Archons. But it is extra work. Miley is an example of an archon with no individual page. A redirect to Archons#Known Archons is better than nothing, but I have no idea who this Archon is or where she appears. --Mad Humanist (talk) 07:45, 21 March 2016 (EDT)

Thinkamancy Link

Has no one else jumped to the conclusion that since Wanda is capable of accessing her Decrypted Archon's Senses (due to their natural thinkamancy), that Charlie may be able to do the same to his?Omdorastrix 13:43, 20 September 2013 (EDT)

Foolamancy uses

I might make a mistake, but I think some decrypted archons used natural foolamancy to veil themselves and try to hide (not successfully, I think because of Ace magic items) from the king and jetsone troops during the fall of the capital. This might have been shown in a text illustration. Shouldn't it be mentioned?

  • Yes, several archons used Foolamancy to hide. And no, it wasn't Ace's magic items that saw through them, it was Cubbins's thinking cap, which protects against Foolamancy and Thinkamancy. I am having a bit of trouble understanding your post. What is it you think should be mentioned?

Natural Allies?

Weren't Archons at some point stated to be natural allies? That somehow charlie could pop?--Ashendant 21:38, 27 May 2014 (EDT)

  • Nope. The only thing that's special about Charlie's archons is the fact that he can pop them faster than any other side that can pop them. See here: LIAB Prologue 25-- 22:20, 27 May 2014 (EDT)
Ah okay. I might've made a wrong association with Daemons then...--Ashendant 12:23, 28 May 2014 (EDT)

Create a Gallery?

Since there aren't pages for individual archons, do we want to create a gallery subsection, or maybe a new page dedicated to it and link there from here?
I mean, we probably don't need every single image of them in the distance, but it might be nice to see what Phoebe looks like.

--No one in particular (talk) 17:22, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Synthesis of Charlie's Angels and Blue Angels, and The Simpsons

Right, we all know that the Archons are a reference to Charlie's Angels. Recently I've edited the wiki and pointed out that they are also a reference to the Blue Angels (follow the blue link!). What I am trying to say that the fact that Charlie's Archons referencing both the Blue Angels and Charlie's Angels is infact Simpsons Reference.

In the episode Thank God It's Doomsday, shortly before fighter planes crash into the blimp Krusty was riding we get the following exchange:

Announcer: "And look! Here is America's favorite waste of taxpayer dollars--
the Blue Angels"
Krusty: "What the? The Blue Angels? I thought we were getting Charlie's Angels"

The episode aired a year before the first page of Erfworld was uploaded to the Giant's site. Anyone think this was a likely influence for Baulder?--Anomynous 167 (talk) 09:48, 24 May 2017 (EDT)

This is really marginal and a likely coincidence. Furthermore, it would be improbable for there not to be these sorts of coincidences in Simpsons, as everything was in Simpsons already. --DukeBG (talk) 10:59, 24 May 2017 (EDT)

Wanda's Thinkamancy?

There's a note that Wanda's Thinkamancy is what lets her see through their eyes, but I was under the impression she thought it was a dollamancy trick that utilized their natural thinkamancy, she refers to the mannequin in book 0. Knavigator (talk) 18:33, 28 May 2017 (EDT)

It utilizes Archons' natural thinkamancy and she's doing it the same way she did it with mannequins in book 0 times, but she learned the "trick with the mannequins" from Maxwell, Thinkamancer of Haffaton. So it was dollamancy+thinkamancy in case of mannequins, but only the second part in regards to archons --DukeBG (talk) 04:10, 29 May 2017 (EDT)